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 Post subject: shows_clean.xml not working
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:58 am 
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i have restarted ted. in fact, i think this shows_clean.xml is not being used as even the private trackers are still being downloaded. i am using the latest windows (0.971). if i want to reinstall, what file should i keep for the shows that i am currently monitoring.


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 Post subject: shows_clean.xml
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:39 pm 
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I am running XP and cannot find shows_clean.xml on my system. I have done two full searches using shows_clean.xml and clean.xml. I am running TED ver 0.971.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:56 pm 
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The movieXplayer downloads are obviously showing up on several popular torrent sites, so I think it's pretty silly to just keep blacklisting sites whenever they keep showing up. I myself prefer to have ted pulling from a lot of sites so that it has a greater chance of finding older episodes, like when I add a new show that I want to catch up on.

I especially don't get the suggested approach of relying on air dates and posted times. That approach would require that ted start making lots of estimates about the earliest air-time of a show around the world and other facts about different release group's patterns that ted can't predict. Not to mention how frequently air times change, and how often the schedulers that ted pulls from make mistakes.

My idea has been similar to what some others here have said, which is to prioritize downloads by the number of leeches. I think this has the potential to be extremely effective without having to live in fear of certain sites/comments/down-thumbs/posting times etc, and I don't understand why the devs have said that it is not a good idea. But rather than focus on the ratio of seeds to leeches or creating a complex forumla, I se no reason not to just prioritize downloads by leeches and take the highest.

People who post fake files are able to maintain very high seeder counts, so using that as a method to combat them is no longer practical. Instead, ted could locate all torrents with more than the minimum seeders, but download the one with the most leechers.

When I have been forced to grab a file manually because ted keeps downloading junk, I have noticed that the bad files were legitimately the ones with the highest seeder counts. But they never have much in the way of leechers, because they have gotten poor reviews, people have caught on, and they aren't downloading them anymore.

In the case of one TV show, the best valid copy of a download had 5722 seeders and 10916 leechers. The corresponding junk file had 7079 seeders, however there were only 299 leechers. This is an obvious sign that this is not the file I want.

This method has the obvious benefit of not relying on any tricks that change depending on the site ted is pulling torrents from, the release, the time, or anything else that may change in the near future. The leech count is a true measure of the popularity of a file - much more accurate than the number of seeders. So it truly leverages the power of public opinion.

Also, to the user who mentioned the trick about checking the file length - I think that's a great idea. Because the point and power of ted is that it should do everything on its own, I don't really care if ted downloads more than one copy of a show, so long as my show is ready as early as it can possibly manage. So if there is more checking that ted can do to determine that a file may be fake after it is downloaded, I say to go for it. Heck, even a user-configured setting to download the top two torrents of every show would be preferable to me right now.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:04 pm 
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inarius wrote:
I especially don't get the suggested approach of relying on air dates and posted times. That approach would require that ted start making lots of estimates about the earliest air-time of a show around the world and other facts about different release group's patterns that ted can't predict. Not to mention how frequently air times change, and how often the schedulers that ted pulls from make mistakes.

Well it is an attempt to overcome the problem as these fakes seem to be released before the episodes are actually aired. And these computations aren't that complex.

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My idea has been similar to what some others here have said, which is to prioritize downloads by the number of leeches. I think this has the potential to be extremely effective without having to live in fear of certain sites/comments/down-thumbs/posting times etc, and I don't understand why the devs have said that it is not a good idea. But rather than focus on the ratio of seeds to leeches or creating a complex forumla, I se no reason not to just prioritize downloads by leeches and take the highest.

I can't recall that I said it would be a bad idea. Just haven't had time for it yet. One advantage is that it is quite easy. Maybe I'll have a look at it tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:38 pm 
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Hehe, I just sent a complaint about MovieXPlayer to:
http://www.ic3.gov/

Some kind of american government.

How can these types of scams be legal? I mean, the producer of this software clearly states that the "encoded" video-files will be shown if you pay $10 for the shitty mediaplayer... But the video-files will NEVER run on any mediaplayer since they are fakes... Doesn't that mean the company/person behind the software is trying to fraud people... Which in case means he is doing something illegal?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:27 am 
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Jofo wrote:
I can't recall that I said it would be a bad idea. Just haven't had time for it yet. One advantage is that it is quite easy. Maybe I'll have a look at it tomorrow.


You are right. It looks like both I and hmmmstrange were confused about the direction of the conversation on the first page of this thread. He brought up the topic of leecher counts but I guess it didn't get a response.

Anyway, I'm glad that you think it might be doable. Thanks for the response!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:22 am 
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I'm experiencing exactly the same problem as posted here

https://ted.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4916#4916

I have had lots of fakes since the latest release of TED.

I have had some this morning & haven't restarted my machine, is there any point in submitting my log?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:09 pm 
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Can't we just add a dupecheck? So that TED checks release-sites/dupechecks to see if the release we're downloading is real?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:06 pm 
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HI Guys,

I'm running TED 0.971 on Ubuntu linux and am having the same problem with bogus torrents. I can't find the clean_shows.xml however. Anyone know where it lives on linux machine ??


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:18 pm 
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Hi Guys,

Any developer progress on filtering out MovieXPlayer torrents?

Further, I have the same problem as orson. I'm running Vista and found shows_clean.xml in three user directories after searching the entire drive. I removed IsoHunt and btjunkie from all three. I then exited and restarted TED and it still used those sites. (I did not try rebooting.) So, this is obviously not where TED is looking those up.

But, yeah, I'm a frustrated TED user, due to all the fakes running around. And don't get me wrong, TED is an a-w-e-s-o-m-e program. It's just that the fakers have ruined and good thing and I sure hope the TED developers can find a way around it.

Thanks,
Bob


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:02 pm 
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We are releasing the new shows list as I type :)Hopefully it will then remove the feeds for you (check your settings).

I started working on the 'best ratio' feature. We only have to decide what is a good ratio? Any ideas here? :)

And would you like to have the option to define this setting. I think so, but we're not sure yet how to do this.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:04 am 
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If you go by the seeds/leechers ratio, I have ted to check for my stuff once every 30 minutes. Usually the ratio is very different on popular and anticipated files from within 30 minutes of it going online (House tonight had 123 seeders, 1300 or so leechers when I started it, but is now at 1335/18822), to when it finishes - if I had waited another half hour to start, a second torrent may have had a better ratio. But it's not like you can be a mind reader AND publish this awesome piece of software!

BTW, thanks for the new version - only been using it for a week or two now, and the fakes were already ticking me off. I removed those two sites Friday, and all my weekend downloads were perfect! Please consider using a different capchta thingy on the forum registration tho, it took me 5 tries to get one that I could read, lol.


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 Post subject: Location of shows_clean.xml on Linux
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:19 am 
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Corkbuck,

The "shows_clean.xml" file is located in your home directory in the
".Torrent Episode Downloader" directory.

~/.Torrent Episode Downloader/shows_clean.xml
/home/your-login/.Torrent Episode Downloader/shows_clean.xml


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First let me say, "Fair play to the team" for taking action on this issue.

It was starting to get really bad, for me anyway, the majority of hits were proving to be fake.

Thanks for the response people.

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found it,

cheers mocarlson1331


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